To answer your question, yes, for the most part, the hardware revision numbers that are compatible are strict for that specific router hardware only unless it says ‘v XXX and/or newer’ under the Notes column. Suffice it to say that certain older models will occasionally go on sale, the speed (frequency) of the CPU and power of the wireless radios will be better at the higher end. One thing to note is that higher clock speed single core (x1) CPUs tend to run best, for the price, when using the VPN versus the dual core (x2) options.
Another good option for the VPN specifically would be the Asus RT-N18U, although it is 2.4Ghz only
you wrote that ASUS RT-N66U would be an optimal choice for TOMATO firmware and VyprVPN app. That’s curious. I have ASUS RT-N66U, right now I’m on DD-WRT and it works wonderfully, except the fact that I don’t have VyprVPN Router app useful and cool features. I tried three times (flashing 3 different versions of TOMATO Shibby firmware compatible with my router) to flash TOMATO, but without success, unfortunately… With TOMATO/Shibby and VyprVPN app everything is great, cool and useful features, I liked it very much, but for some reason my router after few hours won’t respond anymore, it hangs, the connection drops and I have to reboot it with the power button. I’ve the basic VyprVPN plan, so I can use only PPTP protocol, I connect to the Russian server.
If someone can help me solve the problem or maybe someone is using the same router with SUCCESS, please let me know.
Here in Moscow, I can find it on-line for about 11,000 Rubles, (about $200) which is a considerable improvement over what I have seen in stores.
Interestingly enough, many of the reviews on this device, (admittedly the Russian version), claim extreme quirkiness, it runs boiling hot, and is generally a bad idea, even when flashed with non-stock firmware by Merlin. One reviewer went so far as to claim it was better as a hot-plate than as a router!
(p.s. Even though I greatly prefer Firefox as a browser, the “automagic translation” feature in Chrome makes it very useful when browsing sites here in Russia. . . .)
Any ideas? Maybe a hardware version change? (Unfortunately none of the reviewers mentioned either the as-purchased hardware or firmware versions.
Here is the “disadvantages” review from someone on Yandex. I read this and had to laugh!
Price high, but it justifies itself. Many “well-wishers” write that heats “right up to 80 degrees,” - this is a lie. Warm, like other devices. By the way, for such “writers - liars” is already at 50 degrees plastic begins to melt, and at 80 is a smoke column. So this nonsense do not believe buy safely!
Here is the link to all of the reviews on Yandex.
View in Chrome with automagic translation turned on.
I just purchased an older Asus RT-N16 - not sure what hardware/firmware version it has - I dont think it matters with the Asus RT-N16, I think they are all supported by Tomato - and as you flash from the recovery side the firmware does not matter ether…
. . . And that’s the problem. All of the “newer” (make that read "commercially available from stores like Micro Center, Best Buy et al), all have firmware versions that are later than what is specified on Tomato’s list. (I printed it and check available routers against it when I go shopping.)
Thanks for the update!
p.s. You find the original hardware/firmware version listed on the label on the bottom of the case,
What version (hardware version) are you using? It should be marked both on the box, and on the router’s nameplate where the model and serial numbers are located.
On Shibby’s list, the ASUS RT-N66U is followed by “A1/B1” which I am assuming are hardware versions. If your hardware version is not one of these two, then that might explain why you’re experiencing weird problems.
I would like to preference this by stating, any information on routers by Golden Frogs support may not be 100% accurate as we are not the manufacturers of these routers. For accurate information you will want to contact you router manufacturer directly.
It took a bit of searching but you are correct the “A1/B1” designations are hardware differences, to be more precise a single fan on the board. Checking the router box or contacting your manufacturer is still recommended, but from the information I located A1 never made it to the shelves.
To answer your other question it appears that ASUS RT-N66U (A1 or B1) would use the version K26RT-N or K26RT-AC of Tomato by Shibby. Both these version are acceptable to use with our service as listed on our hardware requirements Topic here:
I have noticed an interesting and disquieting thing:
I have been lurking Shibby’s Tomato site for a while now and it seems that development - or at least router qualification - has stopped. This is bad because this list is rapidly becoming stale as I had explained before. (i.e. I can still find some of the routers on the list, but finding the correct hardware version remains problematic.)
My experience shopping, both in the U.S. and abroad in Moscow, demonstrates the need to get this list updated to the most current crop of routers.
Of course, since I also do computer consulting, I understand full well that it is not reasonably possible for either Shibby, or yourselves, to always have the Latest and Greatest routers, as the on-going expense would be non-trivial. I would like nothing better than to be able to afford sending you folks a whole S-load of the latest and greatest routers. And if I had just won the twenty-gazillion-dollar Powerball lottery, I would do it.
All that being said, there really needs to be a way to expand and extend the list of routers that are “known good” for the VyprVPN application, otherwise you risk having the router version of VyprVPN become increasingly irrelevant.
Perhaps you can convince The Powers That Be at Golden Frog to allocate some money in their budget for new routers?
Perhaps you can migrate to a version of the Tomato software that is still under active development? (And has a more current router list?)
It would be a real shame to see the VyprVPN router app fade away as the known-good routers become more and more difficult to find.
I attempted to purchase an ASUS RT-N66U from Best Buy; however it appears to have been superseded by the RT-N66R version. People at the Best Buy I visited said that the RT-N66U was a “way old” version and had not been seen by them for a long time.
Shibby’s firmware for the RT-N66U does not work on this router. Attempts to flash either the “VPN” or the “AIO” firmware fail with a message saying that either the firmware file is corrupt, or it’s the wrong firmware.
The firmware downloaded from this site for the RT-N66R has a filename that actually contains a reference to the RT-N66U router.
Viz.: The downloaded zip file for the RT-N66R (FW_RT_N66R_30043763861.zip) contains an image file named RT-N66U_126.96.36.199_376_3861-g11c21b3.trx. Note the “RT-N66U” in the filename.
Noting the similarity above, I also downloaded the latest firmware ZIP file for the N66U, (which had identical filenames for the embedded firmware files). I compared the two files, extracted from the two downloaded ZIP files using the Windows utility Hashcalc, generating both MD5 and SHA-1 check-hashes. The two firmware files appear to be exactly identical based on a match of both the MD5 and SHA-1 hashes, however the web based configuration page correctly identifies the router as a RT-N66R and not the N66U after an upgrade using this firmware. So, obviously, there is something going on here that is not dependent on the firmware file itself.
I don’t know what this all means, but it is a data-point that you may find interesting.
Another point is that, though this router will not load the Shibby version of the Tomato firmware, it does have the ability of creating a client-side VPN connection, which is better than nothing.
This question raises my question. I read the H/W requirements and bought the Asus N12. Once I was in the details of flashing it I discovered a paragraph in the VYPRVPN router app instructions which says 64 MB RAM recommended with 40 MB Free. That is impossible on the Asus N12 as it has only 32 MB RAM, and after flashing with the Tomato VPN Mini distribution, 20 MB RAM free. I have two questions:
Will Goldenfrog please update the H/W pre-requisites to include this recommendation about RAM size? Otherwise more people will buy routers that don’t meet the recommendations for RAM size.
Has anyone been able to run the VYPRVPN router app reliably with the non-recommended amount of RAM in the Asus N12?
@jharris1993 I remember viewing a YouTube video in which the presenter was emphatic (in that the information came from Asus, allegedly) that the U and R models are absolutely identical; the R stands for Retail and was released to either conform or subvert some US retail marketing law. FWIW.
@jharris1993 Well, I don’t sign in to YouTube now after heeding Tim Berners Lee’s exhortation that, if it is free, you are the product. So there is no history to check. But I thought I would give it a quick search and something caught my eye… came across it by accident…
Sadly, further proof if ever there was needed, the Uploader does NOT claim the info came from Asus… there you go… memory is a construct, and I remain as fallible as I have always been … I hope this guy mentions something that might solve your problems… I intend to Tomato’ise my N66U in due course… after I finish the plumbing
The router you use with the VyprServer won’t really be a factor. However, if you intend to set up the VPN within the RT-AC56U in order to provide all of your local devices with VPN access, it is compatible with both DD-WRT as well as Tomato.